Legislature(2001 - 2002)

05/03/2002 01:40 PM Senate ASC

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                        ALASKA LEGISLATURE                                                                                    
                  JOINT ARMED SERVICES COMMITTEE                                                                              
                            May 3, 2002                                                                                         
                             1:30 p.m.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Senator Gary Wilken, Co-Chair                                                                                                   
Senator Randy Phillips                                                                                                          
Senator Loren Leman                                                                                                             
Senator Ben Stevens                                                                                                             
Senator Alan Austerman                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
SENATE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Senator Bettye Davis                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Representative Eldon Mulder, Co-Chair                                                                                           
Representative Lisa Murkowski                                                                                                   
Representative John Harris                                                                                                      
Representative Jeannette James                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
HOUSE MEMBERS ABSENT                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Representative Reggie Joule                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
OTHER LEGISLATORS PRESENT                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Representative Gary Stevens                                                                                                     
Representative Ken Lancaster                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
PUBLIC MEMBERS PRESENT                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Frank Love                                                                                                                  
Mr. George Vakalis                                                                                                              
Mr. Dean Owen                                                                                                                   
Mr. John Hoyt                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
COMMITTEE CALENDAR                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                              
Speakers:                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pat Ladner, Director Alaska Aerospace Development Corporation                                                               
                                                                                                                                
Mr. George Vakalis' presentation of the "Advantage to Alaskans"                                                                 
     brochure                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Larry Crawford, Anchorage Economic Development Corporation                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
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Admiral Thomas Barrett, U.S. Coast Guard 17 District                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
WITNESS REGISTER                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Pat Ladner                                                                                                                  
Alaska Aerospace Development Corporation                                                                                        
4300 B Street                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, AK  99503                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. George Vakalis                                                                                                              
JASC Committee Member                                                                                                           
PO Box 196614                                                                                                                   
Anchorage, AK  99519                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Larry Crawford                                                                                                              
Alaska Economic Development Corporation                                                                                         
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900 W 5 Ave., #300                                                                                                              
Anchorage, AK  99501                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Michael Kean                                                                                                                
Anchorage Economic Development Corporation                                                                                      
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900 W 5 Ave., #300                                                                                                              
Anchorage, AK  99501                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Mr. Paul Fuhs                                                                                                                   
1635 Sitka #301                                                                                                                 
Anchorage, AK  99501                                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
Ms. Janice Nielsen                                                                                                              
Governmental & Legislative Affairs                                                                                              
USARPAC                                                                                                                         
Fort Shafter, HI                                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
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TAPE 02-3, SIDE A                                                                                                             
1:40 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  GARY WILKEN  called  the Joint  Armed  Services  Committee                                                          
(JASC) meeting to order  at 1:40 p.m. and recognized the presence of                                                            
Representatives  John Harris,  Gary Stevens  and Lisa Murkowski  and                                                            
Senator  Ben Stevens.  He announced  that Co-Chair  Mulder,  Senator                                                            
Leman, and Senator Phillips  were attending another meeting. He then                                                            
welcomed JASC public members  Mr. George Vakalis and Mr. Frank Love;                                                            
Mr. Dave Lewis from the  Civilian Advisory Board; Ms. Janice Neilsen                                                            
from USARPAC;  and Barb Mee,  JASC committee  staff.  Mr. John  Hoyt                                                            
and Mr. Dean Owen were participating via teleconference.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS moved to  approve the minutes from the previous JASC                                                            
meeting  dated  February 5,  2002.  There  being no  objection,  the                                                            
minutes were approved.                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN  informed members  that  their packets  contain  an                                                            
article from AIR  FORCE Magazine entitled, "The Defense  Budget at a                                                            
Glance," and noted the  Department of Defense's budget will increase                                                            
from  $299  billion  in  FY  2001  to  $384.2  billion  in  2007,  a                                                            
significant increase.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
Senators Leman and Phillips arrived.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN asked Mr.  Pat Ladner to  address the committee  on                                                            
missile defense at the Kodiak Launch complex.                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
1:43 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  PAT  LADNER,   President  and  CEO  of  the  Alaska   Aerospace                                                            
Development  Corporation (AADC),  gave the  following background  on                                                            
the AADC launch site.                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
The AADC was  created by statute in  July of 1991. He came  on board                                                            
in August of  1992. The AADC has struggled,  but he is proud  to say                                                            
the launch  complex construction was  completed in 1998 without  any                                                            
general  fund  money from  the  State of  Alaska.  Regarding  future                                                            
possibilities  as they  pertain  to missile  defense  in Alaska,  he                                                            
noted the Northern test  bed was funded this year and work has begun                                                            
on the  environmental impact  statement for  the Northern test  bed,                                                            
which  includes Kodiak.  Scoping meetings  were held  in Kodiak  and                                                            
Anchorage about two weeks ago. Those meetings went well.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LADNER  then showed a video of  the Kodiak launch site  facility                                                            
and grounds  and an actual launch.  [A handout that accompanied  the                                                            
video is available in the committee file.]                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LADNER  informed members  that if everything  goes according  to                                                            
plan, the infrastructure  of the Kodiak launch site  can be doubled.                                                            
The launch  complex was  built for  $40 million;  that could  not be                                                            
done again.  Expansion of  the facility will  create many jobs.  The                                                            
U.S. Air Force estimated  the last launch at the Kodiak site brought                                                            
$5 million  to the  state. Future  plans include  construction  of a                                                            
missile assembly  building, possibly two additional  target pads and                                                            
two silos to intercept,  a motor storage facility, and a maintenance                                                            
and storage facility.  Eight launches are planned  during a 12-month                                                            
time period.                                                                                                                    
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN asked when that will begin.                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MR. LADNER  said the environmental  impact statement is supposed  to                                                            
be finished  in February of 2003.  He stated, "We're trying  to tell                                                            
them right  now you need to start  designing facilities to  be ready                                                            
to start construction,  you know, like we did on the launch complex.                                                            
30  days after  the record  of  decision's signed,  we  ought to  be                                                            
pouring  concrete. So  we're  pushing them  on that."  He noted  the                                                            
Kodiak Synchronization  Workshop was  held last month as  a kick-off                                                            
for infrastructure  and  operations  planning for  Kodiak. The  AADC                                                            
took it upon itself to  start the initial design process and came up                                                            
with a notional for the missile assembly building.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN asked what  the new construction is contingent upon.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. LADNER explained:                                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     There's   two  contingents.  There's  one  -  there's   an                                                                 
     interceptor and then there's  the targets. The targets are                                                                 
     going  to happen.  We're already  doing  those. There  are                                                                 
     some studies, continuous  studies and studies and studies,                                                                 
     by Boeing  to determine  whether or not  they want to  put                                                                 
     two  silos  and interceptors   - test  interceptors  -  at                                                                 
     Kodiak.  Now, the infrastructure  that  I showed you,  if,                                                                 
     for  whatever reasons  Missile Defense  and Boeing decide                                                                  
     that we don't want to put  two silos at Kodiak, we're just                                                                 
     going  to do it at Vandenberg,  then the only things  that                                                                 
     won't happen is that IFIC  building and the two silos. The                                                                 
     target  pads, the  missile  assembly building,  the  motor                                                                 
     storage  facility and - one of  the things I didn't  point                                                                 
     out  because  I  didn't  have  a picture  -  is  it  would                                                                 
     probably increase  the size of the launch control  center.                                                                 
     So the  majority of the infrastructure  probably is  going                                                                 
     to happen  just to support targets  so we're working  very                                                                 
     closely  and,  in  fact,  since our  next  launch  is  not                                                                 
     scheduled  until August  of '03, my  VP of operations,  Ed                                                                 
     Allen  who is 30 years  in this business,  is going to  be                                                                 
     spending  a majority  of his  time in  Huntsville working                                                                  
     very closely  with Boeing and  the Missile Defense people                                                                  
     because  what  we  found  out  is  if  you  don't  have  a                                                                 
     presence, people tend to  make assumptions and we know all                                                                 
     about assumptions. So, as  I told the General, we want our                                                                 
     people  down there so that if  you make a bad assumption,                                                                  
     then  it won't be our  fault. So we're  pretty happy  with                                                                 
     that.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN asked what the committee can do to help.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MR. LADNER  said that Senator Therriault  has proposed allowing  the                                                            
AADC to  begin construction  without coming  to the Legislature  for                                                            
approval. The  statute that established the AADC requires  it to get                                                            
approval from the Legislature  during the legislative session before                                                            
spending funds  for a project that  will cost more than $1  million.                                                            
Therefore,  if a customer  comes to  the AADC  after session  and is                                                            
willing  to spend  hundreds of  millions  of dollars  in Alaska  but                                                            
wants work to begin immediately,  the AADC must wait to get approval                                                            
the following January,  at the soonest. Mr. Ladner said the AADC has                                                            
been a good steward when  it comes to funding, managing its affairs,                                                            
and  the environment.  The  AADC's business  is primarily  with  the                                                            
federal  government,  which has  accounting system  requirements  in                                                            
place.  Contracts are  audited  by the  Department  of Defense.  The                                                            
state accounting  system does not  have the same requirements.  AADC                                                            
recently installed an accounting  system that is compatible with the                                                            
state's.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN  thanked  Mr.  Ladner   for  his presentation   and                                                            
recognized  the  presence  of  Representative  Lancaster  and  Major                                                            
General  Phil  Oates of  the  Department  of Military  and  Veterans                                                            
Affairs. He then asked Mr. Vakalis to present to the committee.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
2:14 p.m.                                                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
MR.  GEORGE VAKALIS,  public  member  of  the Joint  Armed  Services                                                            
Committee,  gave the committee  the following  update on a  brochure                                                            
being produced by the Anchorage  and Fairbanks Chambers of Commerce.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
This brochure  is being produced in  a three-phase approach  for the                                                            
purpose of informing the  public of the benefits derived from having                                                            
military bases  in Alaska. During  the Base Realignment and  Closure                                                            
(BRAC) process,  BRAC commissioners  have  the opportunity  to visit                                                            
different  military sites  proposed for  closure. The commissioners                                                             
hold town meetings  to get feedback on how supportive  the community                                                            
is of the military  in that location.  Such support helps  formulate                                                            
their decisions and recommendations.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The brochure  points out  the advantages of  having a military  base                                                            
located  in a community.  Even  though Anchorage  and Fairbanks  are                                                            
highlighted in the brochure, coastal Alaska is also mentioned.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR.  VAKALIS distributed  copies  of the  final brochure  and  asked                                                            
members to provide  recommendations regarding changes  or additions.                                                            
He stated  the committee  has discussed  providing  funding for  the                                                            
production  of the brochures  and  estimates of  the cost have  been                                                            
made available.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAKALIS said  the second phase of this project  entails a second                                                            
brochure that  will explain why it is advantageous  for the military                                                            
to be located  in Alaska and what Alaska has to offer.  Again, he is                                                            
working with  the Anchorage  and Fairbanks  Chambers of Commerce  on                                                            
Phase 2.  They are also  creating a power  point presentation  to be                                                            
used  when interfacing  with  decision makers  so  that everyone  is                                                            
working  from the  same sheet  of music.  He encouraged  members  to                                                            
offer suggestions while both projects are underway.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN  recognized the  presence  of Co-Chair  Mulder  and                                                            
acknowledged  that the funds for the  first brochure were  provided.                                                            
He mentioned  that Ms. Mee  has suggested  the funds for the  second                                                            
brochure be solicited from industries that would be involved.                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MULDER  complimented  Mr.  Vakalis  on  the  brochure  and                                                            
suggested looking  into the cost of having the brochure  inserted in                                                            
all of the major newspapers throughout the state.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  PHILLIPS asked  Mr. Vakalis  to meet with  him to review  a                                                            
survey he took  of his constituents  regarding support for  spending                                                            
money  to protect  Alaska's  military  interests  through  the  BRAC                                                            
process.  He noted he represents  the largest  military district  in                                                            
the state and he was surprised at the results.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAKALIS  responded that  through the BRAC  process, it  has been                                                            
found that many  communities that have benefited most  from military                                                            
bases  have not  realized the  benefits so  the public  needs to  be                                                            
educated early on.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN recognized  the presence  of Senator Austerman  and                                                            
then asked Mr. Larry Crawford to present to the committee.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. LARRY CRAWFORD, President  of the Anchorage Economic Development                                                            
Corporation  (AEDC), introduced  Michael Kean  of the AEDC  and Paul                                                            
Fuhs, a consultant to the AEDC.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 02-3, SIDE B                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR.  CRAWFORD gave  the following  introduction  and  a power  point                                                            
presentation.                                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
AEDC began  the Military/Commercial  Global Logistics Initiative  in                                                            
2000 and  is now completing  Phase 2. Funding  has been provided  by                                                            
the  state  and  private  sector.  The  AEDC  Board  has  been  very                                                            
supportive  of this  project. Steering  committee  members are  from                                                            
Anchorage, Fairbanks, and  the Mat-Su Borough, so the focus has been                                                            
on the Railbelt.  During Phase I, initial efforts  were focused on a                                                            
military logistics  study that was done by Price Waterhouse  Coopers                                                            
(PWC).  PWC concluded  that  opportunities  exist  in  the areas  of                                                            
distribution  and maintenance.  PWC  recommended that the  AEDC work                                                            
with third party logistics  providers and with Department of Defense                                                            
prime source vendors because  it is clear that the military is using                                                            
a considerable amount of commercial infrastructure.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
With those  recommendations, AEDC  moved into Phase 2 and  engaged a                                                            
company  with experience  in transportation  issues  to look at  the                                                            
global logistics  operations as they currently exist  worldwide. The                                                            
company did  an analysis of the growth  and trends of logistics  and                                                            
of the  strengths  and weaknesses  of the  Anchorage  area. It  also                                                            
established a  set of criteria to identify and pre-qualify  a number                                                            
of companies it  would meet with to discuss how Anchorage  would fit                                                            
into their  supply chains.  They are  also preparing  a sales  plan,                                                            
which is a detailed  approach to meeting with interested  companies.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
The conclusions  of the Phase 2 study  were to continue to  focus on                                                            
high  value   time  sensitive  products   and  to  target   specific                                                            
industries.  AEDC is  looking at  narrowing its  focus to  aviation,                                                            
automotive,  electronics,  information technology,  pharmaceuticals                                                             
and high value consumer  goods. The study also recommended targeting                                                            
specific  services  and  operations:  aircraft  maintenance,   parts                                                            
distribution,    packaging   of    components,   automotive    parts                                                            
distribution  and others.  The study  recommended that AEDC  conduct                                                            
structured  site visits and present  opportunities available  in the                                                            
Railbelt  to specific  companies.  The  last recommendation  was  to                                                            
facilitate formulation of joint ventures.                                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
AEDC will be entering  Phase 3 in the first part of  July. That will                                                            
entail following  up with prospective  companies it has already  met                                                            
with to have more detailed  discussions about how they might benefit                                                            
from  being located  in  the Railbelt.  The  AEDC plans  to do  more                                                            
marketing  in Asia and  will conduct  site visits  to Anchorage  for                                                            
Asian companies.  AEDC  will also  be working with  major cargo  and                                                            
passenger  airports.   The  consultant  has  recommended   that  the                                                            
Anchorage airport  partner with other airports such  as Los Angeles,                                                            
that make more  money on passenger  traffic, so that those  airports                                                            
do not have to handle as much cargo.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAWFORD  concluded by saying  that facilitating joint  ventures                                                            
involves  packaging, that  is, putting together  a specific  package                                                            
that includes  a logistics provider,  manufacturers and shippers  as                                                            
customers,  and  a  developer  with an  interest  in  financing  and                                                            
operations.   AEDC  has  done   a  lot  of   marketing,  knows   the                                                            
opportunities and who the  players are and is at a point where it is                                                            
ready to  start packaging  and getting involved  in specific  sales.                                                            
Potential benefits include jobs and a larger tax base.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAWFORD said  that AEDC has advertised the fact  that Anchorage                                                            
is nine  hours from 95  percent of the  industrialized world  often.                                                            
After further analysis,  the AEDC found that Anchorage is very close                                                            
to a majority  of the world's gross product, so it  is in the center                                                            
of most of the world's buying power.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN asked where  the consultant will meet with the AEDC on                                                            
May 22.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAWFORD  said it  will probably  be held  in CIRI's  conference                                                            
room in Anchorage.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR LEMAN asked the name of the transportation consultant.                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAWFORD  replied the consultant  is a company named  Transfair.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MR. KEAN clarified  that the Los Angeles  airport is landlocked  and                                                            
does not have  room to expand its  harbor facilities. If  the harbor                                                            
transfer work  is done in Anchorage, flights could  terminate in Los                                                            
Angeles,  download,  upload and  take off  again to  their place  of                                                            
origin. He  added that the  military may be  able to piggyback  onto                                                            
the  maintenance  and recalibration  work,  from the  standpoint  of                                                            
having parts recalibrated  within the state, rather  than in another                                                            
state, as is the case now.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. CRAWFORD added  that the AEDC has worked closely  with Fairbanks                                                            
and the Mat-Su  Borough to make this a Railbelt project.  The Mat-Su                                                            
Borough  would  benefit from  any  development  at the  airport  and                                                            
Fairbanks  would benefit  because it  markets a lot  of fuel  to the                                                            
Anchorage  airport.  When AEDC  makes  presentations  to groups,  it                                                            
shows slides of the Fairbanks airport as well.                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. PAUL FUHS,  consultant to the AEDC, pointed out  the military is                                                            
in the  "midst of  a revolution"  regarding how  it treats parts  in                                                            
storage. Right  now, when an aircraft is purchased,  it is purchased                                                            
with a complete  contract for maintenance  and parts supply  so when                                                            
Mr. Crawford  explained the  concept of  packaging, a manufacturer,                                                             
logistics distributor and  carriers are necessary to compete in this                                                            
new world. He added the  AEDC learned from the Pacific Command about                                                            
the issue of maintenance  of aircraft parts, and how that is where a                                                            
bottleneck occurs. Aircraft  parts are constantly being switched out                                                            
and sent for testing  and recalibration so that offers  Anchorage an                                                            
opportunity   to  be   a  global   maintenance   facility  for   all                                                            
international air traffic in Anchorage.                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN thanked Mr.  Crawford, Mr.  Kean, and Mr.  Fuhs and                                                            
asked Major General Oates to address the committee.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL  PHIL OATES, Commissioner of the Alaska  Department of                                                            
Military and Veterans  Affairs (DMVA), gave the following  update on                                                            
the Alaska National Guard and the military as a whole.                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
He just returned  from Washington,  D.C. where he received  an award                                                            
for the youth  talent program in the  Alaska National Guard.  Alaska                                                            
has  received  this award  three  years  in a  row.  Also,  Alaska's                                                            
aviation  battalion in  the Army Guard  is being  recognized  as the                                                            
best  Army  aviation   battalion  in  the  entire   Army  Air  Guard                                                            
nationwide.  A new combined  support maintenance  shop was  recently                                                            
opened in Ft.  Richardson. That shop  is absolutely the best  in the                                                            
entire Department  of Defense. It  will allow the National  Guard to                                                            
expand  and do maintenance  operations  and repairs  for the  entire                                                            
military  in  Alaska.  Alaska's  104 Civil  Support  Team  was  just                                                            
certified  and, in  fact, the  fifth Army  came  down and  certified                                                            
them. They certified every  team in the country and, in their words,                                                            
the team  in Alaska  is the best  they have seen  yet. That  team is                                                            
critical   to  rapidly   assess,   identify  and   detect   nuclear,                                                            
biological, chemical, radiological  or high explosive events, set up                                                            
a command post,  and operate in a hazard protective  environment and                                                            
give advice and recommendations to DMVA.                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL OATES continued.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     We recently had the National  Guard bow and I went through                                                                 
     three pages  of one-line bullets of what we had  done over                                                                 
     the last  year and it was absolutely  staggering. And  the                                                                 
     National Guard,  as you know, is your military.  There's a                                                                 
     lot of military here but,  you know, the National Guard is                                                                 
     the legislative  and the state  military and it's because                                                                  
     of  your strong  support  that we've  done as  well as  we                                                                 
     have. There  are also some changes that you see  happening                                                                 
     in  Alaska that  go back,  I would  say, to  the mid-80s,                                                                  
     probably with  Senator Stevens back when Barb  was working                                                                 
     for him, and seeing a vision  of what Alaska could be, not                                                                 
     only in the Guard but in  the active military and a lot of                                                                 
     what you see  coming together now is the vision  from back                                                                 
     in that era and now you  see us adding to it the component                                                                 
     of a  Pacific test bed.  And that adds  to our ability  to                                                                 
     have  a  fully  integrated  missile  defense  testing  and                                                                 
     exercise capability  here. It allows us to integrate  that                                                                 
     with our air  and ground test facilities and it  allows us                                                                 
     to take advantage of - the  real jewel in the crown is our                                                                 
     broad  expanse of training  areas from  the air, the  land                                                                 
     and the sea.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
     All  that is happening  right  now as we  think about  the                                                                 
     military here  but there's also another dimension  of this                                                                 
     that is just  happening that you may not be aware  of - is                                                                 
     we've  got   another  'CINCdom'  [Commander   in  Chief  -                                                                 
     Northern Command]  coming to Alaska. We have both  unified                                                                 
     and combatant commands,  our four star war fighters if you                                                                 
     will, and  we will now have four of those with  a foothold                                                                 
     here in  Alaska, a mission in  Alaska and force structure                                                                  
     in Alaska.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     Now  adding to  PACOM's presence  here,  Pacific Command,                                                                  
     where  we're missioned  to  go to  the Pacific,  added  to                                                                 
     NORAD's  presence here to defend  our air sovereignty  and                                                                 
     our  air defense, added  to U.S. space  commands presence                                                                  
     here with  clear and the rapidly evolving missile  defense                                                                 
     activity, will come Northern  Command and Northern Command                                                                 
     is being stood up by our  nation as a combatant command to                                                                 
     provide  our homeland security.  It will cover the United                                                                  
     States,  it will include Alaska  less Hawaii, and it  will                                                                 
     also have as its air of  operation Canada, Mexico, part of                                                                 
     the  Caribbean, and 500  nautical miles  out to sea.  This                                                                 
     command,  it looks like  it will be  located in Colorado,                                                                  
     and it's very  important that we make Alaska a  very, very                                                                 
     strong presence in that  command and you can see it's easy                                                                 
     from  a military perspective  to be  an afterthought  when                                                                 
     the Lower  48 is the center of the universe, if  you will.                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
     So  one thing  that's  important  for this  committee  and                                                                 
     important  for the  military is  make sure  our needs  are                                                                 
     known  well in that  command and as  that is evolving  and                                                                 
     standing up  this October, I think that's probably  worthy                                                                 
     of  your  time to  get  more information.  And  what  this                                                                 
     command  will do, it  will bring the  military support  to                                                                 
     civilian  authorities  and  it will  provide  the federal                                                                  
     military   assistance  to  the  agencies  on  the  crisis                                                                  
     response,  which is  headed by the  Department of Justice                                                                  
     and  the consequence  management response,  which will  be                                                                 
     headed  by FEMA. We're  doing a lot  in homeland security                                                                  
     but,  again, added  to everything  we have  in Alaska,  we                                                                 
     have four  unified or combatant commands that  are located                                                                 
     in Alaska  as well in  this area of  operation, which  has                                                                 
     really  become a microcosm of  the Department of Defense.                                                                  
     We've got a joint subordinate  unified command here, we've                                                                 
     got  a  combined presence  with  Canada.  We've  got  full                                                                 
     service  representation.  We've got broad  training  areas                                                                 
     that  are becoming  more  and more  used and  we've got  a                                                                 
     fully integrated National Guard.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
     And  let me  just conclude  with  just talking  about  the                                                                 
     National  Guard and  where we're going.  There are really                                                                  
     three   legs  to   our  mission.   The   first  [is]   our                                                                 
     mobilization  or go to war missions and for us  that's our                                                                 
     tactical  airlift,  our  combat  search  and  rescue,  our                                                                 
     combat  communications,   our aerial-refueling,   and  our                                                                 
     critical  site security  in our Army  aviation battalion.                                                                  
     Those  are our mobilization and  go to war missions  where                                                                 
     all our  war planned in those  missions. In fact, some  of                                                                 
     our forces  now are currently  deployed in their war  plan                                                                 
     areas for the ongoing fight  against terrorism. The second                                                                 
     mission  area [is]  where we're  a force  provider.  We're                                                                 
     very,  very  unique in  Alaska  and  I think  leading  the                                                                 
     nation as a force provider.                                                                                                
                                                                                                                                
     Now what do  I mean by force provider? The National  Guard                                                                 
     recruits the  forces, initially trains the forces,  equips                                                                 
     the  forces, professionally   develops the  forces,  takes                                                                 
     care of the families and  then we provide a package to the                                                                 
     active  duty on a  daily and operational  basis but  those                                                                 
     forces  are  still  available  to  the state  and  to  the                                                                 
     governor  through a memorandum  of agreement. Which  areas                                                                 
     of those?  It's the rescue coordination  center, it's  the                                                                 
                                                             th                                                                 
     aerial-refueling  mission,  rescue  coordination  for 11                                                                   
     Air Force  aero-refueling for NORAD and now beginning  the                                                                 
     second  year  of  manning  the  regional  air  operations                                                                  
     center. It's the space surveillance  mission at Clear that                                                                 
     we just started  to recruit for and it's also  the missile                                                                 
     defense  activity that  we'll man once  this becomes  more                                                                 
     than just a test bed operation.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
     And  then the third  area that's very  unique is homeland                                                                  
     security and  we're uniquely structured for that  with our                                                                 
        rd                                                                                                                      
     103   Civil  Support, our  scout group  that is organized                                                                  
     for critical site defense  in a hazardous environment, our                                                                 
     Army  aviation,  our  communications  capability  and  our                                                                 
        rd                                                                                                                      
     103   Civil Support  team. So we're  becoming very unique                                                                  
     and  integrated   in  the  National  Guard  for  homeland                                                                  
     security.                                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
     So,  I will  conclude  by saying  that  a lot  of this  is                                                                 
     possible because  of you and those that preceded  you, not                                                                 
     only the  support that you give  to the military, but  the                                                                 
     fact that  you make it a very key part of the  legislative                                                                 
     process here and I'd like to thank you for that.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL OATES informed members that Boeing is starting the                                                                
process  of opening  offices in  Anchorage and  Fairbanks and  asked                                                            
members to encourage that effort.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN  noted that  last  year  the Legislature  funded  a                                                            
second  one-star  position  for missile  defense  and  asked for  an                                                            
update.                                                                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL  OATES said the nominee,  Jim Welsh, is going  through                                                            
the  legislative  confirmation  process  right  now. Mr.  Welsh,  an                                                            
executive with  British Petroleum, was selected by  the Governor. He                                                            
has an  extensive background  in project  management and has  unique                                                            
military and industry skills.                                                                                                   
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN  asked about the status  of legislation that  allows                                                            
the  state  to pay  the  difference  in wages  when  National  Guard                                                            
members who are state employees are called to duty.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  JAMES thought the bill was still in  the House State                                                            
Affairs Committee.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL  OATES informed members that due to  many deployments,                                                            
National Guard members  no longer serve just one weekend a month and                                                            
two weeks a  year. Many businesses  are realizing the critical  need                                                            
of having  individuals ready  to serve our  country, and that  those                                                            
individuals  should not  be penalized  for doing  so. Many of  those                                                            
individuals  earn less while  on military duty,  yet they incur  the                                                            
same  financial   obligations  that  civilians   do,  such  as  home                                                            
mortgages. Nationwide,  the trend is to help pay some  of the burden                                                            
for  those  who  serve;  many  other  states   have  passed  similar                                                            
legislation. He  noted it is not unusual for National  Guard members                                                            
to be called to duty for 9 to 12 months in a year's time.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MULDER asked Major  General Oates if he was familiar with a                                                            
bill that relates to the Army site at Eagle River.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL OATES said he was not.                                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR STEVENS clarified that legislation is SB 371.                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
MAJOR GENERAL  OATES noted a major  environmental clean-up  occurred                                                            
in that area because of  white phosphorous fired into it. He thought                                                            
the military  has become more environmentally  conscientious  but he                                                            
noted the  more Alaska  restricts the military's  ability to  train,                                                            
the more the military will be driven to train elsewhere.                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN noted that  legislation will be heard at 3:30 in the                                                            
Senate Resources Committee.  He then thanked Major General Oates for                                                            
his service and asked Ms. Nielsen to address the committee.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS.  JANICE  NIELSEN,  Director  of  Governmental   and Legislative                                                             
Affairs for USARPAC,  Fort Schafter, Hawaii, gave  the committee the                                                            
following update on some movements within the military.                                                                         
                                                                                                                                
Yesterday,  the Commander in  Chief of the  Pacific had a change  of                                                            
command.  Admiral  Dennis  Blair  relinquished  command  to  Admiral                                                            
Fargo,  who was  the Commander  of CINCPAC  fleet  at Pearl  Harbor.                                                            
Also,  President  Bush,  in  conjunction  with  Secretary  Rumsfeld,                                                            
announced recently that  General Keane will replace General Shinseki                                                            
as Chief of the Army next  year. Regarding the change of command for                                                            
the Commander  of the Pacific of the  Army, no date has been  set of                                                            
when  Lt.  Gen.  Smith will  relinquish  his  command  to  Lt.  Gen.                                                            
Campbell.   She will work with the  committee to arrange  a visit by                                                            
Lt. Gen. Campbell once a firm date is set.                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MULDER  said that  when  General  Myers was  in  Anchorage                                                            
during  the Salute to  the Military,  he was  asked for suggestions                                                             
regarding what  Alaska could do to enhance its position  nationally.                                                            
General  Myers recommended  hosting an annual  event in Washington,                                                             
D.C. for Pentagon officials  to put names to faces and locations and                                                            
heighten  awareness. The  committee  has discussed  hosting such  an                                                            
event in September. He  asked Ms. Nielsen to assist the committee in                                                            
organizing  that event and said he  intends to appropriate  funds to                                                            
the Joint Armed Services Committee for that purpose.                                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. NIELSEN  agreed to work  with the committee  and noted  that she                                                            
has helped  the  Hawaii Chamber  of Commerce  host  a similar  event                                                            
every year.                                                                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MULDER  said the committee  intends to host the  event with                                                            
the Anchorage  and Fairbanks Chambers of Commerce.   Co-Chair Mulder                                                            
then  apologized for  having  to postpone  the first  Salute to  the                                                            
Military - Southeast Style event until next year.                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN thanked Mr.  Love and Mr.  Knapp for the work  they                                                            
did on that  event. He then asked  Ms. Mee to update the  committee.                                                            
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEE  said the problems  at Eagle River  are one reason  that the                                                            
brochure was  created. She then announced  that she plans  to depart                                                            
as staff in  the near future but will  help put the September  event                                                            
together  in Washington, D.C.  She noted that  three things  were on                                                            
her priority  list when  she began  working for  the committee  last                                                            
June. The  first was  to get  Anchorage and  Fairbanks talking.  She                                                            
believes  the work the two  chambers did on  the brochure is  a good                                                            
start. The  second priority was to  make sure all players  in Alaska                                                            
are "playing from the same  sheet of music" and she believes that is                                                            
being accomplished.  The third priority is to entertain  the "movers                                                            
and shakers."  The committee will have an opportunity  to touch base                                                            
with some  movers and shakers  from Washington,  D.C. on June  2 who                                                            
will be coming  to Alaska.  She encouraged committee  members not to                                                            
get ahead  of Senator Ted  Stevens, who is  working tirelessly  with                                                            
Senator Inouye  and others to see that the military  is placed where                                                            
it should be.  She said it is important  to continue to make  people                                                            
aware that Anchorage is  7.5 hours from any possible hot spot in the                                                            
country.   Although  she   believes  the   military  structure   and                                                            
components  in Alaska  may change  over the next  decade, she  still                                                            
believes  Alaska remains  the "best  game in town"  so keeping  each                                                            
other informed will help keep it here.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MULDER asked members  to plan to attend the June 2 event as                                                            
it will provide  a great opportunity for committee  members to touch                                                            
base with Senators Reed,  Hagel, and Thompson and Congressmen Kolbe,                                                            
Tauscher  and Snyder.  Also,  on June  3,  Anchorage  kicks off  its                                                            
military appreciation week  with a Chamber of Commerce luncheon. Co-                                                            
Chair  Mulder  then  thanked  Ms.  Mee for  her  wonderful  work  as                                                            
committee aide.                                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN announced  that Major  General  James Lovelace  has                                                            
been promoted  to Assistant Deputy Chief of Staff,  the G-3 position                                                            
in the Pentagon. He also  announced that Admiral Tom Barrett will be                                                            
receiving his third star  and moving to the Coast Guard headquarters                                                            
as  Vice Commandant.  He  will be  replaced  by Rear  Admiral  James                                                            
Underwood.  Last, Brigadier General  Doug Fraser has left  the Third                                                            
Wing at Elmendorf and has been replaced by Colonel Dutch Remkes.                                                                
                                                                                                                                
TAPE 02-04, SIDE A                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN  noted the Legislature recently passed  a resolution                                                            
in appreciation of the  Yukon government's assistance to Alaska when                                                            
allowing  a Korean Air jet  to land in Whitehorse  on September  11.                                                            
His office worked very  closely with Premier Duncan's office to make                                                            
sure  that everyone  who participated  was  thanked.  He then  asked                                                            
members if they had further comments or questions.                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAKALIS  said he  plans to have  the second  brochure and  power                                                            
point  presentation   finished  before   the  committee   hosts  its                                                            
September event  in Washington, D.C.  so they will be available  for                                                            
                                           th                                                                                   
the committee's use. In addition, on June 7,   the Anchorage Chamber                                                            
of  Commerce  will  feed about  8,000  military  members  and  their                                                            
families.  This event  has been held  for the  past three years.  He                                                            
noted that volunteers are needed.                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
MR. LOVE informed  members that Admiral Barrett's  change of command                                                            
will take  place on Monday  [May 6] in Juneau.  His successor  is an                                                            
Alaska  veteran  who  formally  commanded   the  Sweetbriar  out  of                                                            
Cordova.                                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  HARRIS noted,  regarding Northern  Edge, the  marine                                                            
aspect of that program in his district is going very well.                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR MULDER asked for suggestions for the next meeting.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
MS. MEE said the committee  had hoped to go to Kodiak before Admiral                                                            
Barrett left.  If the committee meets in Kodiak, it  could visit the                                                            
world's  largest   Coast  Guard  base   and  the  Alaska   Aerospace                                                            
Development Corporation.                                                                                                        
                                                                                                                                
SENATOR  LEMAN commented  that  the  Coast Guard  base  is not  only                                                            
large, it is incredibly clean.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
MR. DAVE LEWIS,  Citizens Advisory  Committee, encouraged  committee                                                            
members to  think homeland defense  priorities and although  it will                                                            
take  a  lot  of  money,  it  would  be  a  shame  to  approach  the                                                            
anniversary  of September  11  less prepared.  He  urged members  to                                                            
leave it up  to the folks who really  know what needs to  be done to                                                            
protect Alaskans. As current  chairman of the Armed Services YMCA of                                                            
Alaska, he thanked all  participants for their efforts on the YMCA's                                                            
behalf.  He noted  this  year, the  Armed  Services  YMCA of  Alaska                                                            
worked with Ft. Wainwright  and Eielson Air Force Base; next year it                                                            
will work with the Coast Guard.                                                                                                 
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN pointed  out that discussions about homeland defense                                                            
funds are underway in the Legislature at this time.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
MR. LADNER  said he would  e-mail members  with an update about  the                                                            
June 2 workshop in Kodiak.                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
MR. VAKALIS noted  the bill referred to by Senator  Stevens [SB 371]                                                            
is very important  because if the suing party prevails  in the Eagle                                                            
River military  range case, it will  set a precedent, affecting  the                                                            
military throughout the United States.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  WILKEN acknowledged  that  bill is  in committee  members'                                                            
sites.                                                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR  MULDER introduced  Admiral  Thomas Barrett,  and  informed                                                            
members  he  will   be  receiving  his  third  star,   a  tremendous                                                            
promotion. Committee members congratulated Admiral Barrett.                                                                     
                                                                                                                                
                                             th                                                                                 
ADMIRAL THOMAS BARRETT,  U.S. Coast Guard, 17   District, introduced                                                            
Rear Admiral Jim Underwood,  presently the National Security Advisor                                                            
to the  Secretary  of Transportation.  Rear Admiral  Underwood  will                                                            
relieve Admiral Barrett  on Monday; he knows Alaska and will do well                                                            
by Alaska.                                                                                                                      
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL BARRETT  thanked the Alaska Legislature, and  the members of                                                            
the Joint Armed Services  Committee in particular, for their support                                                            
of the  Coast Guard. He  also thanked members  for their support  of                                                            
the military  in  general. No  other state  in the  nation  provides                                                            
better  support  to  men  and women  in  uniform,  whether  that  be                                                            
resource support to get  the infrastructure, training, or equipment,                                                            
or better  services for  their families.  Admiral Barrett then  gave                                                            
all committee  members a medallion  commemorating the Coast  Guard's                                                            
commitment  to operational excellence  in Alaska in appreciation  of                                                            
members' efforts.                                                                                                               
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT then  gave  a power  point presentation  to  update                                                            
members on  what the Coast  Guard is doing  in Alaska at this  time.                                                            
The highlights of that presentation are as follows.                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
   · The cutter  Monroe is underway in the Bering  Sea, headed up to                                                            
     the maritime  boundary with Russia to patrol.  Ships are coming                                                            
     to the area as the ice has fallen back.                                                                                    
   · The icebreaker Healy  is in transit to Nome and is scheduled to                                                            
     arrive within  two days. The Healy will be going  further North                                                            
     to do polar  research with a National Science  Foundation team.                                                            
   · The  Acushnet, another  cutter, just  left for law enforcement                                                             
     patrol in the Aleutians.                                                                                                   
   · The cutter SPAR is  doing law enforcement and navigational aids                                                            
     work in Unimak Pass.                                                                                                       
   · An HC-130  is flying today over  the Western Aleutians  and the                                                            
     Bering Sea  and a Canadian Orion is staged out  of Shemya doing                                                            
     high seas drift net  patrols. So far, it has not seen any drift                                                            
     net activity in that area.                                                                                                 
   · The  Coast   Guard  has  an  H-60  in  the  Eastern   Aleutians                                                            
     supporting the Acushnet.                                                                                                   
   · The  Liberty is  on patrol  in  Prince William  Sound;  another                                                            
     cutter, the  Mustang, is just leaving there after  working with                                                            
     Northern Edge.                                                                                                             
   · Two  new small  boats have  been deployed  in  Valdez for  port                                                            
     security and a helicopter  and crew was deployed to Cordova for                                                            
     the summer  months to provide support to the  fishing industry.                                                            
   · The Coast Guard is providing vessel escort for submarines.                                                                 
   · An  H-60 is  flying out  of Sitka,  doing law  enforcement  and                                                            
     cruise ship watch patrol.                                                                                                  
   · The cutter Sycamore is en route to Cordova.                                                                                
   · Other activities  involve presenting boating  safety awards and                                                            
     participation in contests involving school children.                                                                       
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL BARRETT  noted that key areas of homeland  security from the                                                            
Coast  Guard perspective  are  the Valdez  Marine  Terminal and  the                                                            
tankers  transiting   to and  from   there.  The  Coast  Guard  just                                                            
completed  participation  in Northern  Edge, which  focused for  the                                                            
first time  on port security. He noted  Alaska is ahead of  the rest                                                            
of  the country  on port  security.  The Coast  Guard  was the  lead                                                            
federal  agency in  that training  exercise, and  ALCOM, the  Alaska                                                            
Army National  Guard,  the Air National  Guard,  U.S Army, Navy  and                                                            
Marines dive teams and  boat units from the "Lower 48" participated,                                                            
as well as the FBI, Alaska  State Troopers, Alyeska Pipeline Service                                                            
personnel  and  the   Valdez  Police  Department.  He  complemented                                                             
Representative  Harris   and  the  community  of  Valdez  for  their                                                            
support. Safety  and environmental concerns with oil  transportation                                                            
is a major  issue for Alaska. He believes  Valdez is the  safest oil                                                            
transport port in the country.                                                                                                  
                                                                                                                                
Passenger vessels are also  an issue. In addition to security risks,                                                            
there is a  personnel protection issue.  Those ships carry  2,000 to                                                            
3,000 passengers.  The risk of fire or a grounding  is of concern to                                                            
the Coast Guard,  for which it exercises a high capacity  Search and                                                            
Rescue Transponder  (SART) system.  Again, because of the  work of a                                                            
lot of people,  Alaska has a much better posture with  regard to the                                                            
environmental  concerns with cruise ships. Senator  Murkowski closed                                                            
the "donut holes"  with federal legislation last year.  On the state                                                            
level, the  Legislature worked to  get a better regime in  place. In                                                            
addition,  the Legislature  passed  a recreational  boating law  two                                                            
years  ago. The  boating  related  death rate  has decreased  by  40                                                            
percent since that legislation passed.                                                                                          
                                                                                                                                
Fisheries remain  a big issue for  the Coast Guard. The Coast  Guard                                                            
has had  some good  operational successes  over  the last year  when                                                            
working with the Russians.  It is trying to show Russians to see how                                                            
the U.S.  regulates  fisheries and,  for the first  time, the  Coast                                                            
Guard  brought in  some representatives  from Russia  to appear  and                                                            
testify before  the North Pacific Fisheries Management  Council with                                                            
the Coast  Guard.  The net  result is  fewer incursions  on the  MBL                                                            
(Maritime Boundary  Line). The Coast Guard has reached  an agreement                                                            
with  the  state to  delay  openings  in  high-risk  fisheries  when                                                            
weather  conditions require  such  action. The  Coast Guard  deploys                                                            
helicopters  to St. Paul and Cold  Bay during the winter  fisheries.                                                            
The  Coast Guard  is very  proactive  on boating  safety,  including                                                            
charter boats  and small vessels. The number of SAR  cases is slowly                                                            
decreasing. The  Coast Guard is still saving about  200 to 250 lives                                                            
per year, but the caseload  is starting to decrease as the result of                                                            
prevention efforts.                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
Regarding the  Coast Guard's budget,  President Bush and  the Alaska                                                            
Legislature  have been highly supportive  of the Coast Guard,  which                                                            
will see about  an 18 percent increase in FY 03. That  increase will                                                            
not immediately  solve the  homeland security  issues confronted  by                                                            
the Coast Guard on a nationwide  basis, but the Coast Guard hopes to                                                            
ramp up to that level over  the next three years. About 6,000 people                                                            
will be added  nationwide, as well  as several thousand reservists.                                                             
                                                                                                                                
The Coast Guard  needs better support in the St. Paul  area. Fueling                                                            
capability is not adequate.  This winter, the Coast Guard had to fly                                                            
a fuel truck from  Kodiak to St. Paul to refuel its  helicopters, an                                                            
expensive  and unreliable way  to do business.  Penn Air has  always                                                            
been  willing  to help  out  the Coast  Guard.  The Coast  Guard  is                                                            
looking for private  and public partnerships to address  its housing                                                            
problem.  An ice radar project  is coming on  line in Valdez  - that                                                            
will solve a major problem  for the Coast Guard. The port was closed                                                            
to transits  a few  days this week  because of  ice in the  shipping                                                            
lanes. The  Coast Guard has  partnered with  the weather service  in                                                            
Alaska so that  it can broadcast weather from its  high sites, which                                                            
increases range by about 300 percent.                                                                                           
                                                                                                                                
REPRESENTATIVE  GARY STEVENS asked  Admiral Barrett to elaborate  on                                                            
the housing needs.                                                                                                              
                                                                                                                                
ADMIRAL  BARRETT estimated  the number  of housing  units needed  in                                                            
Kodiak is about 200. Congressman  Young and President Bush have been                                                            
supportive  of improving housing.  In Cordova,  the number  is about                                                            
30.                                                                                                                             
                                                                                                                                
CO-CHAIR WILKEN  thanked Admiral Barrett on behalf  of the committee                                                            
and  welcomed  Rear  Admiral  Underwood.   There  being  no  further                                                            
business to come  before the committee, he adjourned  the meeting at                                                            
3:40 p.m.                                                                                                                       

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